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		<title>By: Brother Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brother Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2010 13:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mixed feelings is the best way to describe my opinion, death might be a lighter sentence than a lifetime sentence. Death may just provide the individual his freedom. Sometimes I think spending 10, 20, 30 or more years in confinement is better than death. But it is a tough call. Just my two cents worth. 
 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ulcnetwork.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Universal Life Church&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mixed feelings is the best way to describe my opinion, death might be a lighter sentence than a lifetime sentence. Death may just provide the individual his freedom. Sometimes I think spending 10, 20, 30 or more years in confinement is better than death. But it is a tough call. Just my two cents worth.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ulcnetwork.com" rel="nofollow">Universal Life Church</a></p>
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		<title>By: tanksoldier</title>
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		<dc:creator>tanksoldier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 14:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Think of it as putting down a rabid animal.  Best for everyone involved, including the animal. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Think of it as putting down a rabid animal.  Best for everyone involved, including the animal.</p>
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		<title>By: Justthisguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justthisguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jul 2010 11:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Incon, you are such an idealist! It figures, you being a Marine and all. 
 
  I do concur absolutely with every word you wrote, there. I, too, am an idealist, though I often come across as a cynic. As they say, a cynic is a broken-hearted idealist. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Incon, you are such an idealist! It figures, you being a Marine and all.</p>
<p>  I do concur absolutely with every word you wrote, there. I, too, am an idealist, though I often come across as a cynic. As they say, a cynic is a broken-hearted idealist.</p>
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		<title>By: Philip Welch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philip Welch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 06:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The laws of the Old Testament requires the death penalty for a lot of things because they were written by (and for) a nomadic people wandering through the desert, who had almost nothing but who did have a lot of rocks around. So of course they dealt with troublesome people (and homos) by stoning them to death. They didn&#039;t have many other options. As a relatively wealthy civilization, we do. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The laws of the Old Testament requires the death penalty for a lot of things because they were written by (and for) a nomadic people wandering through the desert, who had almost nothing but who did have a lot of rocks around. So of course they dealt with troublesome people (and homos) by stoning them to death. They didn&#039;t have many other options. As a relatively wealthy civilization, we do.</p>
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		<title>By: mom</title>
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		<dc:creator>mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 19:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The death penalty is our only legal means of ultimate vengeance but it is highly ineffective. Years of due process and appeals, to ensure the rights of the accused, is absolute torture for the family and friends of the victim(s) and extremely expensive.  And yes, innocents are erroneously determined to be guilty, which also means the guilty are free to roam our streets.  I would consider life in prison for our worst offenders if hard labor and a life of hell was actually an option.   Our society ensures that the rights of prisoners are protected above all else.  My God they have better health care, educational opportunities, food and shelter than many people. The death penalty isn&#039;t working and neither is life in prison.  Our system is ineffective to say the least.  Neither option seems to be curtailing crime or serving the people. Victims of violent crime have a take on this that I do not believe any of us can understand unless or until we are in their shoes and frankly I don&#039;t want to be there.  In regards to the idea that we are lowering ourselves as a species by implementing the death penalty  -It&#039;s common practice for humans to euthanize their pets, out of love and compassion.  The beloved animals never get a chance to say, hey, wait a minute!  We determine what we believe to be best for them.  Yet we consider killing a human by the same methods, even the most vial of humans, to be inhumane.  Lethal injection for a beloved pet is  humane and lethal injection for  a human killer is inhumane?  When wildlife feels threatened and kills a human, they are immediately put to death. Yet a human that knows better and still chooses to kill another human, is given every opportunity to live.   Yes, we are of a higher species, so why do we kill animals acting out of instinct, yet allow humans that kill, the right to live? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The death penalty is our only legal means of ultimate vengeance but it is highly ineffective. Years of due process and appeals, to ensure the rights of the accused, is absolute torture for the family and friends of the victim(s) and extremely expensive.  And yes, innocents are erroneously determined to be guilty, which also means the guilty are free to roam our streets.  I would consider life in prison for our worst offenders if hard labor and a life of hell was actually an option.   Our society ensures that the rights of prisoners are protected above all else.  My God they have better health care, educational opportunities, food and shelter than many people. The death penalty isn&#039;t working and neither is life in prison.  Our system is ineffective to say the least.  Neither option seems to be curtailing crime or serving the people. Victims of violent crime have a take on this that I do not believe any of us can understand unless or until we are in their shoes and frankly I don&#039;t want to be there.  In regards to the idea that we are lowering ourselves as a species by implementing the death penalty  -It&#039;s common practice for humans to euthanize their pets, out of love and compassion.  The beloved animals never get a chance to say, hey, wait a minute!  We determine what we believe to be best for them.  Yet we consider killing a human by the same methods, even the most vial of humans, to be inhumane.  Lethal injection for a beloved pet is  humane and lethal injection for  a human killer is inhumane?  When wildlife feels threatened and kills a human, they are immediately put to death. Yet a human that knows better and still chooses to kill another human, is given every opportunity to live.   Yes, we are of a higher species, so why do we kill animals acting out of instinct, yet allow humans that kill, the right to live?</p>
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		<title>By: Politics, Guns &#38; Beer : It&#8217;s time to remind you (again) of Cory Maye.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Politics, Guns &#38; Beer : It&#8217;s time to remind you (again) of Cory Maye.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2010 21:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Buzz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2010 13:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Barry, I&#039;m advocating execution for children that curse their parents, also. 
Get real. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Barry, I&#039;m advocating execution for children that curse their parents, also.</p>
<p>Get real.</p>
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		<title>By: Robb Allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robb Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2010 12:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, I would like to mention I am discussing the generalization, not the root document being discussed. I have no intention of getting into religious debates online.  
 
The point I&#039;m making is that an idea&#039;s validity is  measured irrespective of its source, nothing more, nothing less. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, I would like to mention I am discussing the generalization, not the root document being discussed. I have no intention of getting into religious debates online. </p>
<p>The point I&#039;m making is that an idea&#039;s validity is  measured irrespective of its source, nothing more, nothing less.</p>
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		<title>By: Robb Allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robb Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2010 11:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enlightened means &quot;freed from ignorance and misinformation&quot; or &quot;based on full comprehension of the problems involved&quot;.  
 
So yeah, the Founding Fathers &lt;i&gt;were&lt;/i&gt; enlightened. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enlightened means &quot;freed from ignorance and misinformation&quot; or &quot;based on full comprehension of the problems involved&quot;. </p>
<p>So yeah, the Founding Fathers <i>were</i> enlightened.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2010 11:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only religious idiots think a person is &quot;enlightened.&quot; Some people have had some good ideas, and I like them. I don&#039;t deify people, nor do I think it ever makes sense to do so. That would include those who wrote whatever stuff ended up in what we now call the bible, for various reasons that include justifying genocide. 
 
The Constitution as a contract between the government and the governed is just that, a contract. Nobody has to be &quot;enlightened&quot; to draw up a valid contract. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only religious idiots think a person is &quot;enlightened.&quot; Some people have had some good ideas, and I like them. I don&#039;t deify people, nor do I think it ever makes sense to do so. That would include those who wrote whatever stuff ended up in what we now call the bible, for various reasons that include justifying genocide.</p>
<p>The Constitution as a contract between the government and the governed is just that, a contract. Nobody has to be &quot;enlightened&quot; to draw up a valid contract.</p>
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