Wow, we live in a rural area with Bad people near by and Smith & Wesson are our best friends
thankyou for posting this, Its a true fact that there are bad people out there who are willing to
try to hurt us or steal from us but they will find out that we are not Sheep.

and with your permission I would like to link to this story Please.

Interesting. The linked news article does not seem to name the name of the victim (and let me be clear, I’m talking about the lady that shot in self-defense and not the stalker), for which the news service ought to be commended for.

I write about this sort of thing on Crusader Gecko all the time. Mostly practical stuff about how to arm yourself and be good at it so if this sort of incident occurs you are ready and will have a better chance of winning.
I take being armed very seriously, and am probably carrying about 95% of the time when I lawfully can. Which in Montana is just about everywhere.

I fully believe that police are crime suppression, not crime protection. Only people able to protect us are us on an individual level. This sort of thing can just as easily happen when you are out in public too. Only thing that anti-carry, anti-weapon, and other forms of disarmament laws do is make more potential victims and removing potential crime stoppers. But, most gun laws are written by people that know nothing about weapons or their lawful and practical use.

Stories like this just re-enforce all of it. I know exactly what would have happened had she decided to let the government protect her and let the criminal do what they wanted so she didn’t have to harm them. She’d be dead with some detective poking at her corpse. I’d rather the good ones live and the bad ones find themselves having biological function problems.

I agree, get the story out. Only way we may get this freedom restored everywhere.
- Should be noted that Illinois is a state where lawful conceal carry is not allowed. Had he waited until she was away from her house, she may have been killed because she was not able to be armed, or if she was the cops would be arresting her on a weapons violation that saved her life -

911 call starts at 00:35 of the video.

4:36 CALLER: Please hurry.

4:37 - 4:42 DISPATCH: They’re all ready on their way. I know. It feels like forever. It’s only been two minutes.

It’s actually been four minutes, but who’s counting?

The intruder breaks into the room at about 5:30, or 4 1/2 minutes after the 911 call started. While the victim is being attacked, the dispatcher reassures her that the police “are almost there.”

If this had been my sister/friend this guy would have had his legs broken after the
tire slashing event…..he’s be alive now. He got what he deserved. Yes, the
police do a great job, but usually arrive just in time to tag your toe. You can only really count on yourself and thank God for friends who lend guns.

More proof that when seconds count, the police are only minutes away.

More senseless gun violence.

As the statistics predict, once again a handgun in the home is used to kill an acquaintance.

And this woman was not even trained!

Plus she provoked him, telling him to stop over and over again. She knew the police were on the way, she should have just given him what he wanted.

In this case, her last breath.

I like the ending, especially- Mr. Bergner alone in the whistling desert of eternity.

This proves it: women need guns.

Yes, men should be allowed to have guns too. But women should be required by law to own and know how to use guns.

A good start towards women’s equality — the great equalizer, courtesy of Colt.

Very powerful. I’m so grateful this woman had the wisdom to arm herself and a very cool demeanor even as she was being stalked in her own home.

Goodbye, Mr. Bergner, better you than her.

Well. This says it all. I have always told gun-control advocates I know that they are, if they prefer, free to rely on the tender mercies of 911. I will not.

I can’t think of any more compelling demonstration of my position. 911, indeed.

In NYC we have been disarmed. You can’t even mail order a toy sling shot to NY state!!! Luckily most of the buildings are well-locked, and many have albeit unarmed, at least well-trained security guards in “doorman” style buildings. But fire escapes continue to be easy targets, since few people religiously lock their windows in buildings that average about 100 years old. Yet enough people are around to spot people climbing around on a fire escape. They’ve really beefed up security since 911, actually, in that the “walk down” entrances to the laundry room/garbage collection basements that usually were casually left to mere wimply old school barbed wire gates now have razor wire and locked solid doors you can’t climb over. Still, if someone got in, I’d be lucky to get to the kitchen in time to find a good knife to use against a $25 ghetto gun. This is the City of Guiliani. Sure he cleaned up crime, but we still can’t even own pepper spray keychains here, on the island of recession era muggings. Then again, not being rural, the undercover cops tend to actually tackle your mugger as he is following you up your front steps, like they did once when I was in college here. One time though, I had a “homeless person” (bum), stick his foot in, as I tried to close my non-doorman building front door, at night. That was a stand off until I sliced his fingers with a Swiss Army knife. He didn’t bug me again, let us say. Yet I am lucky, since in NYC, self-defense with legal pocket knives is effectively illegal that in “he said”/”she said”, whoever actually gets hurt is guilty of felony assault by default, unless you spend ten grand on a really good lawyer.

The only part of that film I really enjoyed was the happy ending. :)

The cop as first line of defense is pure bullshit. YOU, the decent law abiding citizen, are the one on the firing line.

It’s a wonder she wasn’t prosecuted by a scum government because the weapon wasn’t registered to her.

I’m going to make a comment, in “Poor Mans’ James Bond” fashion, meaning it’s more of an idea than a tested invention, but if you go to any hardware store, you can fashion a quick defense weapon that would have had quite a similar effect to this woman’s use of a handgun. That is, Red Devil brand (lye = pure sodium hydroxide powder) drain cleaner, dissolved in minimal water (add the drain cleaner *very* slowly or it will boil and splatter, which if it does run, don’t walk, to the shower), and stored in an wide-mouth airtight heavy duty container made of a hydrocarbon like polypropylene or polyethylene, say, the exact same bottle the Red Devil came in? It will get thicker and thicker as you add more lye, and will get quite hot and thin too, so indeed add slowly. This olive oil thick (at room temperature) easily hurled liquid will instantly blind and melt the surface skin away of anybody you aim it at. They will not likely die, but their jail time will be very unpleasant, as will the rest of their life. Best of all, you don’t need a permit, even if you carry it in your car, and “I threw drain cleaner at a rapist” sounds pretty good in court too. A portable version would need a sturdy non-human-use-brand squirt bottle with a screw cap. If you live in a state that allows pepper spray, that is certainly more humane, but in a bind, this has more stopping power than a hunting knife.

dagamore-

More proof that when seconds count, the police are only minutes away.

Well said.

Wow…just wow. Found you via Instapundit and would like to link to you on my blog as well. I forwarded this to my husband (a cop) who would never get to our house in time if I were being attacked. Which is why I want to be trained to use his spare guns.

I truly do not understand people who are “afraid” of guns … I’m more afraid of psychos myself.

Anyone else only hear 2 shots and him asking “So are you going to try and kill me?” hmm wonder if someone later put the 3rd shot in him….not saying that would have been a bad thing. And as always if you have to use deadly force…that is what you should use. Don’t leave an intruder to sue you or be there to testify against you.

I’m a cop and a former dispatcher. The dispatcher handled herself very well. Ours around here would’ve told the lady to put the gun away.

Chilling hearing that. I’m glad to know that my wife is armed and capable.

I am thankful for the US Military, our local and state police departments, the FBI, and other brave men and women who our government employs to provide protection of life and property - be it from everyday criminals, Islamofacists, or rogue nations.

But I don’t wait on them.

If you live somewhere where a law exists that prohibits using deadly force in the act of self-defense, you are not truly a free person. You are a victim of government tyranny and simply an “acceptable loss” in their eyes, for whatever reason. Maybe that reason is based on a legitimate (but false) belief that society is safe when deadly force is not prevented, or the government is too ignorant to see that firearms are an equalizer that make the physically meek as strong as the biggest of men. Or maybe they are simply afraid of you, and know that they cannot enforce their will of being a benign dictatorship when the balance of power is tipped back to the people themselves in the most extreme and urgent states of political durress and oppression.

But the fact remains. Self-defense is a human right. A fundamental HUMAN RIGHT.

Thank you to Indiana Governor Mitch Daniels for signing Indiana’s “Castle Law”, which explicitly permits that which was implied in the past - intruders are dead meat.

Seems the video has now been taken down. I wonder why….

Regardless this reinforces my desire to see my wife learn how to use a firearm. It’s an incredible story and should provide a warning to any about the danger of waiting on the cops. I have my own story of the cops being called after a drive by in a relatively upscale neighborhood and it took the cops about an hour to get there. An HOUR. I know if the San Fernando Valley the cops are lacking resources but that was just ridiculous. Just goes to show that they don’t exactly show up faster the richer the neighborhood.

I cannot hear any shots being fired.
nor can I hear the sounds of her being choked.
clearly there’s a lot more to this call that isn’t being shown.

I don’t want to hear it for any sick reasons
I just to verify the series of events and how they played out.
clearly a B&E + Attack from this guy deserves her defending herself
no question.

but there’s more to this story.

Why Police Are NOT a First Defense……

This made my blood boil and it took my a couple seconds to temper my emotion reaction to this: Taken from Politics, Guns Beer. Needless to say I am once again reminded that not only my safety, but my wife’s…

:o its the governments fault for not locking up this madman before it came to this :o, but hey better him than her ;o

Here is what happens when the woman does not have a gun:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5e1_1199622703

US Court decisions have stated that police are under no obligation to respond at all let alone protect anyone. All attempts to obtain legal redress or liability from police who didn’t protect citizens have been thrown out by courts up to the Supreme Court.

This is the reason we need the 2nd Amendment and very liberal concealed carry laws. Only raising the uncertainty of being killed or injured will strike enough fear into people like the attacker to prevent this kind of thing.

I saw your post on arfcom but didn’t realize that the victim in this case was in Illinois.

Wonder if they will charge either her or the person who loaned her the firearm. If she doesn’t have a firearm owners card they both have committed crimes.

Firearm owners card = 2-3 month waiting period, PLUS waiting periods for purchase on both long guns and handguns. She’s alive despite the best efforts of the state only because of the kindness (and legal risk) of another gun owner.

Illinois is also one of only two states in the US which completely prohibits carry of a firearm. If the stalker had bothered to attack her ANYWHERE except her home she’d have been defenseless just as the government demands, unless she would choose to break that law as well. The state gives every advantage to criminals and every possible risk to honest citizens.

Go back and listen carefully - I distinctly hear at least two shots. They are not in rapid succession, and they happen while the victim is screaming at him to “just stop”. It’s BANG …. (screaming and wailing) … BANG. She clearly did not want to have to shoot the guy and wanted him to just stop. He didn’t, and she realized he was giving her no choice but to act in her own self-defense. Good for her.

I got really mad at the dispatcher when she said “it’s only been two minutes” at 4-1/2 minutes into the tape! While the lady is being attacked, she says “they’re almost there.” Well, lady, “almost” isn’t quite good enough. At that point, the victim could be almost dead.

Sorry for the poor woman, and glad she’s alive to put it behind her. Foolish laws that would make it harder for her to obtain a gun are exactly that, foolish. Training? Hardly necessary in this situation. Everyone should get some practical training and use their gun on a range in a variety of scenarios. Everyone should know the laws regarding use of force in their home area, and stay within them. If it’s your life at stake, few prosecutors are going to chance charging you, and fewer juries will convict. And if they do, a couple years is not an eternity, if you’re sure of the situation and feel you are going to be killed if you do not act… “I’d rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6.”

My mother in law is at a loss why I taught her daughter how to shoot and for a wedding gift got her a .357 magnum. This is the exact reasoning. Though I also remember that despite what many think, the courts have ruled that the police are not obligated to respond to a 911 call.

“. . . a government and its agents are under no general duty to provide public services, such as police protection, to any particular individual citizen . . .”
Reference: Warren v. District of Columbia, 444 A.2d 1 (D.C. App.181)

One is responsible for their own protection and defense. Some people are ostriches, they prefer to stick their head in the ground thinking that makes the threat disappear. Others are war horses turning to the sound of the guns, like the young man in Moscow last May. I just wish there were more war horses in the world, and the ostriches weren’t trying to disarm the war horses.

Bravo to her for removing that piece of shit from the gene pool! The dispatcher should be jack-slapped for inane comments like: “Dont do anything rash”. ‘Scuse the hell outta me, lady, but the “rash” behavior was on the part of Bergner, whom the cops and the legal system failed to stop.

I own a .380 Browning semi-auto. I guarantee anyone who breaks into my house is going home to mama in a body bag.

SFC Cheryl McElroy
US ARMY (RET)

Nothing brings more fear to an intruder than the sound of a 12 gauge being racked.

911; Government sponsered Dial-a Prayer

Firearms for self-defense are like fire extiquishers, car horns and flashers and any other type of insurance. You hope that you never have to use it, but are glad you have when you need it.

As a former police officer I can attest that any cop worthy of the name knows the truth. The police are there to write the report and zip the bag. The criminal is scared to death of an armed citizen but not so much of the police. They know who is more likely to shoot. As an American, I also realize WHY we have the Second Amendment. It keeps criminals, disguised as the government, from stripping the rights so many have fought for. Remember, England was the rightful government of the American colonies. Votes didn’t matter any more to them than they do to todays politicians.

As a law enforcement officer, firearms and self defense instructor I can assure you that the odds of the police coming to your rescue in time is in direct proportion to the ineptitude of your attacker and your ability to outdo his efforts. Your best bet is to be prepared to defend yourself. A woman in the home without a gun she knows how to use is a victim waiting for a perpetrator. Don’t let it be you. Arm yourself and get training in how to use it. It’s the cheapest life insurance you’ll ever buy.

This woman wasn’t a victim. She’s a survivor.

One thing about dispatchers,

They take notes for the police.

When this happened to my brother, they told him to jump out of a 2nd story window of his own house and run for help. Instead he shot at the perp that had a knife in hand and the perp ran out of the house. The perp was caught later driving a van from his job. The owner of the company did not press charges on the perp because he knows he has a drug problem. If he knew about his drug problem then way give him a car?

My brother told dispatch everything that he intended to do and what was happening.

What would have happend if my brother would have broken his leg while jumping from the window?
What if the perp would have ran outside and stabbed him?

My brother was charged with firing a gun in city limits. Since his gun was not registered he did not get it back. This event cost him 10 thousand dollars in legal fees. He said he should have just put the phone on the floor and let them listen in.

Maybe, less you say the better your court case will be.

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